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Webworm

What do you plan to gain?

Someone to talk with when im alone

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Like, what kind of relationship would you like to have with your tulpa?

NiQsterVX

Someone to talk with when im alone

And, what do you fear to lose?

Webworm

And, what do you fear to lose?

Sanity mostly

6:02 PM

And i also fear that my tulpa would start acting out

Generally not a worry.

And also my friends would think im mentally ill

NiQsterVX

And also my friends would think im mentally ill

Some friends. I'm sure they should be able to listen, at least. (edited)

It shouldn't happen as long as you have a positive mindset. Tulpa's interactions with you can manifest a problem that's already going on. If you are emotionally stable, tulpa won't act out.

So basically if im good then tulpa will be good?

You aren't obliged to tell other people about your imaginary companions if you're afraid about their reactions.

Sora Faux

You aren't obliged to tell other people about your imaginary companions if you're afraid about their reactions.

^

Tulpas give back what you put into them. Shower them with love and you'll get love back.

6:06 PM

Also yeah, fuck tellin' everyone.

6:06 PM

There's good reason to think people'll take it the wrong way.

So basically if im good then tulpa will be good?

@NiQsterVX - jump Yeah, something like that.

So just don't.

Zen

Tulpas give back what you put into them. Shower them with love and you'll get love back.

you see, that just isnt true because i dont hate Error

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6:07 PM

;w;

Error doesn't hate you Rusty... He's just tsundere.

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6:07 PM

And so are you.

No im not

B-baka.

You missed a word^

If you're okay with that kind relationship and it doesn't cause you distress it's fine.

6:09 PM

It's good to be good with yourself before you are committing to tulpamancy.

6:09 PM

If you are making a tulpa during a distress, their reaction might manifest it.

Also i talked about long term relationships today and what should i do when my tulpa has a crush on someone and i have a crush on someone different?

Have a harem

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There's your mistake, you should sleep with the tulpa.

Zen

There's your mistake, you should sleep with the tulpa.

Why did i think about that

NiQsterVX

Why did i think about that

Why didn't you~? (edited)

I do... All three of them.

Zen

I do... All three of them.

What if it turns out they are trans (edited)

6:11 PM

And you gay

I'm already bi, so... cool new fetish I guess?

Become pansexual?

Make tulpas you are attracted to

Sora Faux

Make tulpas you are attracted to

Wemen

Yeah make them hot then validate them for associating with the body.

NiQsterVX

And you gay

That's a relationship issue in general, not applying only to tulpas~.

Webworm

That's a relationship issue in general, not applying only to tulpas~.

Why the ~

~_^. (edited)

Lmao

Worms. They are everywhere.

Worm♥️ worm♥️ worm♥️ worm♥️ worm♥️ worm♥️ worm♥️ worm♥️ worm♥️ worm♥️. (edited)

~

•_^

NiQsterVX

•_^

ok, new guy, do you have any more questions on tulpas?

Sora Faux

ok, new guy, do you have any more questions on tulpas?

All my insecurities have been solved i think

Cool. Do you plan to commit to your tulpa?

Yes

Good. Have fun then. Remember, tulpamancy is for you to enjoy.

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so niqster joined tulpa.info

Welp I'm about to tell my best friend I've known since kindergarten about Joey, how do y'all think it'll go?

Why are you asking us, complete strangers to this person, how he will respond?

Idk wanna talk to other people about it, can't really talk to anyone else

i hope it goes well

Broach the topic with care and ask for their trust and privacy. That's all that I can really say on the topic.

1:06 AM

Only you can really judge if they're trustworthy though. Or mature enough to not immediately think you're crazy or whatever.

Holy shit that went great

1:25 AM

He thinks it's pretty interesting

A'ight. Good.

He even had a nice proxyed discussion with joey

Whatever not switching is defined as. There's two things she can do. First, she can control my hand or whatever. The other is I guess "front" and just control the body. She can have conversations with others, I kinda just exist and let her. Taking a back seat and not thinking much.

There are a lot of ways to define switching, there is no single agreed upon definition for it. Based on what you're describing that sounds like it could be similar to our experience. When I possess Gray, Gray usually steps back and doesn't think much. However, if we get distracted, Gray will likely kick me out. If he doesn't want me to possess him, he won't let me

12:41 AM

@Pleeb

A long kiss goodnight

Whatever not switching is defined as. There's two things she can do. First, she can control my hand or whatever. The other is I guess "front" and just control the body. She can have conversations with others, I kinda just exist and let her. Taking a back seat and not thinking much.

There are a lot of ways to define switching, there is no single agreed upon definition for it. Based on what you're describing that sounds like it could be similar to our experience. When I possess Gray, Gray usually steps back and doesn't think much. However, if we get distracted, Gray will likely kick me out. If he doesn't want me to possess him, he won't let me

Yeah that sounds very similar!

In that case, I think my understanding of possession is relevant (I was worried it would be our switching or something) (edited)

I have always considered switching a literal sense of the word; the tulpa is in the position of a host, and the host is in the position of a tulpa. I think similar is going on when people report things like an "out of body experience". Still, Chess said that she can experience the body's senses and stuff when fronting so I don't know.

12:49 AM

My thoughts are it's something a bit in-between of possessing and switching, again, these are my own definitions of it though.

I think the distinction between possession and switching can exist, you just have to draw the lines in the sand. If you draw parallel lines, like we did, they won't overlap. Otherwise, they are very similar experiences, possibly on the same spectrum of experience. When have what we call "sensory based" switching where the tulpa switched-in gets "connected" to the body. Once they are, they're essentially the default personality. When they zone out, they're still switched-in and in control of the body, even if they're distracted or doing something in wonderland. In our experience, we believe the switched-in headmate also processes more on the unconscious level than a headmate who is switched-out, even if they are talking to you. Since we drew parallel lines, something I don't think many other people have done, these don't overlap. We switch with a ritual, otherwise if a headmate feels close to the front they always possess not switch. As a result, possession actually feels different than switching for us.

12:56 AM

=== As for having an "out of body experience"- we have not experienced that, but I wonder if there could be an experience like that if someone claims to wonderland switch. It's something I want to investigate further, but for now I don't think I fully understand wonderland switching.

When we possess, it feels like we are "on top of" the switched-in person, like we're a layer or something. When we switch, it's like we change who's on the inside.

I've been hearing a lot about this "wonderland" can someone explain what that even is?

A wonderland is an imagined place. This place can be a reoccurring elaborate world, a small white void, or anything in between. In the context of wondelrand switching, the controversial idea is the host can switch out into their wonderland and become unaware of the real world. This is controversial because this implies parallel processing, which may or may not be possible

A long kiss goodnight

A wonderland is an imagined place. This place can be a reoccurring elaborate world, a small white void, or anything in between. In the context of wondelrand switching, the controversial idea is the host can switch out into their wonderland and become unaware of the real world. This is controversial because this implies parallel processing, which may or may not be possible

its fine, my cpu can handle it

1:04 AM

but also tell me more about this wonderland

*us

1:04 AM

hes so insensitive...

I think wonderlands vary a lot from system to system, I suppose I can tell you a bit about our wonderland... Well the first problem is we actually have several spaces. We don't have one general place that has everything, we have lots of random scenes that we just kind of summon whenever we need a new setting. In general we have + The old wonderland used when Gray created us + Various scenes including a beach scene, a den, a bench by a pond, etc. + Personal wonderland spaces including Fhern's wonderland, Gerodious's attempted wonderland, etc. + And wonderland spaces used to represent our mind, including the switching front, the sleep schedule symbol servitor, etc. + Oh, and that one "parallel world" attempt that we haven't touched on in awhile (edited)

I still don't really get it. i'm gonna look it up on the actual tulpa.info but thanks

Oh, let me try something different: You know how Joey has a form, right? You can see his form using your mind's eye. You use your mind's eye to see a wonderland, only instead of imagining Joey's form you're imagining a place

ahh

1:19 AM

sorry I was reading a guide on something about being able to hug a tulpa

1:19 AM

it was very interesting

q2's guide?

yup

1:23 AM

I don't know if were ready for stuff like that yet though, even Joey agrees he has a while to develop

1:23 AM

and I still have a ways to go, I'm still getting past the barrier of not considering Joey to be a real person

Imposition is not a prerequisite to personality, you can make a lot of progress on imposition without creating a tulpa even

1:25 AM

Imposition might make the experience of tulpamancy far more rewarding however

alright

1:26 AM

but on a lot of other fronts, like possesion, i'm gonna let him develop and take things slow

When i rediscovered tulpa topic two month ago i originally tried to create wonderland because a lot of the guides said it helps with tulpa, and i thought that if i succeed, it will proof tulpas are possible, lmao. I didn't understand i already had imaginary spaces, plenty of them, i just never tried to interact with them.

You don't need tulpas to make a wonderland and you don't need a wonderland to make tulpas.

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Whenever we lately used wonderland together it was truly amazing experience. Elfi is most talkative in wonderland, i guess thats because i dont get distracted so much.

I personally have done a lot better with my tulpas than I have with my wonderland, e.g. they are much more completely formed. It is only occasionally and under the best of circumstances (for me that is when driving solo for long distances and switching out with one of them who does the driving) that I am able to fully experience wonderland with my other tulpa. And while I said, fully. I actually only experience one scene. I have used that scene to serve as a starting point for world-building when writing tulpa tales. Dr. Bob

I have no need for a consistent and samey mind palace. My wonderland is always its most vivid because I am actually using it to imagine things that are interesting and novel to me.